Southern Shaolin Kung Fu | Master Ong Ming Thong | Season 1 Episode 05


I’m Ong Ming Thong actually I practice Shaolin Southern Shaolin style and then Xing Yi Quan Taiji Quan and also Bagua Zhang. And how many years have you been practicing? All together almost 40 years. 40 years, wow. Shaolin I mean, because I practice
Shaolin at the beginning and after that, after two years I
started with Xing Yi Quan and then Taiji Quan, and Bagua Zhang.
So Shaolin is the longest practiced art Wow yes it’s a long time to be practicing. And do you see any similarities or differences
between the different arts that you practice? Okay, so… technically I think that all arts are merged to
the same principle at the end if you see globally. Except for certain mentalities
for example Japanese arts Japanese Budo, Bushshido is a bit different
from Chinese martial arts mentality. So that is a bit different, but after all they are quite similar. So obviously the more you train
and the more you learn, you start to see similarities in the arts.
Yes. And how do you prevent, lets say illnesses or how do you improve your
health through the martial arts? Is it a Qi Gong that you do,
or do you practice medicine as well? In Traditional Chinese martial
arts we have all those movements or methods,
what we call Gong. And then, we have those sequence movements,
prearranged movements either practicing solo or with partners two – three persons sometimes. And apart from that you have applications and
certain movements, sparring or something similar
to “push hands” in Taiji, but in Shaolin we have
those kind of things And then you have Qi
gong special methods for health, and also for
martial arts purposes. So all those, if you want to practice
martial arts Qi Gong we need to get good health. So normally in Traditional Chinese
martial arts when we practice Qi Gong we start from Qi gong for health. And when you have a
relatively robust body then we continue for
more demanding practice for specifically for
martial arts purposes. Ok, so there is a difference with the
Qi Gong for martial arts and for health. They are two separate things right?
Yes, yes exactly. And apart from that kind of practice sometime we need the
help from medicines as well. So in Traditional Chinese martial arts one part that is not negligible is what we call “Yao Gong” “Yao” means medicine,
“Gong” the method training method with help of medicine. Normally it’s a natural product,
herbs that kind of thing. So for example when we practice conditioning of our, the
members of our body on the sandbag,
or that kind of thing. We use a certain application what we call “Dit da jow” We are using the Traditional med, this formulation is coming down
from Sik Ko Sum (释高参) my masters master, his master.
Directly to us. So this is half vinegar and half ethanol. And you use this before
and after training? Before, during and after. Before, during and after Okay.
Yes. So this is not so practical to
bring around and everything. So now they have come out with
that kind of cream over there so that we can bring it everywhere. Sometime for this kind of application you use vinegar, depending on the proportion. Sometime it’s not so good for skin, So with cream, you can add
in something to protect your skin So you don’t get no allergic
reaction or something Exactly, yeah yeah. Many people have this
problem of allergic reaction So with cream you add in something
to prevent those kinds of things. And it also depends on the
formulation as well from the herbs And would you mind showing us maybe some of the exercises you
use to harden the hands? Okay. Okay. And this is really hard. Can i feel your hands?
This hand. Wow, it’s really hard. Yes. Thank you. The master is how old now? 82. 82 years old. He’s a direct disciple from Sik Ko Sum (释高参) the monk. He introduced the art in Malaysia. And how long has the master been
practing, when did he start? More than 60 years. He started from 22 years old. Yes he is still very strong. Is he still teaching now? He still practices?
Practicing yes. Yes Exercise Yes, still exercise is good. He is one of the two direct disciples
from Sik Ko Sum (释高参) in Penang who are still alive. Wow, yes. So you only hit the hands on here? You don’t use any other body parts
when doing the conditioning? Yes, you use other parts as well. Chopping… and our forearms. The inside. So for example in a real confrontation If yourself, or one of your
students or the Master blocks somebody’s arm
and they hit them. The idea behind this is that the
arm is so strong it damages the guy is that the purpose of it? Or is it so you don’t get hurt? The main purpose is so that
we don’t get hurt. But if they get hurt, that is an extra. It’s an interest that
comes along with it. It’s like you make a fixed
deposit in the bank, but the money is there
that is your capital. That is what we want. But the interest comes along with it.
I like that analogy. More or less it’s not very accurate. Okay. It feels very heavy. Yes very, very heavy. Yes. Yeah, maybe we can try one
more on this side. Okay. Wow. It feels like it goes
up the body and down. All the way through my body. The penetration is what we want when I explain in a little while,
when we hit and how we apply it. Or you can do the
forearm exercises as well Okay, if you want you can do.
Yes. So this way right? Wow. Okay. Yes it’s so strong. And this only comes from doing the
conditioning with the medicine right? Of course if you do this alone your hand with become
numb, and not flexible. So you need to practice with other exercises, and if you practice the
form and everything actually it’s an exercise to relax
your muscle and your body parts. Yeah after this kind of training. And the Qi Gong has any
importance in this training as well? Yes Yes, because for for Chinese martial arts, you need to get your… the flow of your Qi
smooth and free. So that is the purpose, because we say that Qi
will lead the blood circulation. Then the blood will come in. What we know in science today
Qi that part we can not prove it yet Yes. But it doesn’t mean
that it doesn’t exist. So for us, we believe that if
you get a free smooth flow of Qi, then your blood circulation will be
smooth and free automatic. That’s important to release everything.
I understand, yes. That is the forth form we perform. Okay. It’s very demanding, obviously. Yeh, it’s different. For example, at the beginning we do this, actually
it’s grabbing as well. Here… In the first form what we want is,
when you grab here we say that we want to do this to unstable it a bit,
then go out, grab push from here, basically. So, in this one… what we want is,
to do it all in one put it out,
push from here So, if I want to do it just
with my forearm, it’s hard. Grab. Okay, yeah. Can not. So I have to
synchronise the whole body So from here, thats why we start from here, go down
just all in one. Everything go in one. So, at the same time this… this one is going while I’m displacing my weight. So from here, it helps me
to do this turn and at the same time
when I pull it back this one comes along
when i pivot my body. So, it’s here. So everything is working together.
Yes. And if we don’t want to let go of
the hand, then we are coming from here. It’s as I said just now, this one.
Okay the same movement. This one from here, and if you can grab it, of course… you lost less control. But if don’t grab it, it’s fine
it’s here the angle is here. As long as you grab me,
you are here, right. And this one should not go far
away, otherwise you just elbow me. So it’s just about one fist
distance from here. Very short.
Yeah. So it becomes a short
distance movement, and its all in one movement. If you do it… then it’s wrong already. So… thats why the old master Sik Ko Sum (释高参) he say that
this is what we call big, big form. It’s not big in the sense
that it’s long or anything but it’s hard to perform. It’s hard to perform, but it’s
in our four basic forms. Because of all the small
details that are in there? Yes, right. So you have to be able to grab
whatever you need to know before you can apply it. Apply it in a movement. I mean in the street, nobody will say
I grab you and you do this to me. No, but i mean how naturally you can perform it, it might be there. If you are in a fight you
will never think that if you punch me with that hand,
or this hand or if you kick me. Never. It’s a natural reaction and
how calm your mind is how you can see the
movement and analyse. Not getting Zen but, analyse it naturally,
in a fraction of a second and you come out with something. So that kind of training is
through normal practice and regular practice in a correct way so you can apply it, and
use it more or less naturally. The first exercise we try to do
normally is try to push out people, push out people not by banging out,
but by attacthcing to the body this is quite similar to Taiji. And then we do it with movement,
we start with, this is for beginner. Just move in and push. So that is pushing. And then we try not to
move by having here and push. And then we start from
this position to do others, for example sweeping, leg sweeping. By applying and grabbing as well. Going down and sweeping from
the leg, this kind of things. Starting from this, go down and also learning how to displace
and move with our leg to block with the shin here. So go down and blocking
from a different angle as well. For example, from here come in here and get down. So that is how we practice. And he can push me as well, push in, and once I can get in we start here and… for us we use our elbow this comes in. Come in, elbow once touching then we move. So we are not banging on it, but in Taiji push hands competition it’s prohibited. Yes.
You can not use it. And we can not kick either, because sometimes when
we try to destabilise someone we pull down here, It’s with the shin bone we kick on it and pull it down. Or press in, this kind of things. So this is starting from pushing and blocking, the blocking and grabbing. And of course we have
something for throwing as well. Throwing can be as simple as that and go out. Or changing the direction by getting in, and changing
the position this way. So this kind of training
is prearranged because there are certain movements prearranged so that we can
familiarise with the movement, and then we get into
more or less, free pushing. Okay. So free pushing is more or
less like in Taiji push hands. Yes it’s completely random. Random and kicking. But for training purposes,
sometime we just train the upper body. Upper body meaning
just arms and body but without kicking to start with. So we can do some of it. Just get away, here. Okay, if we have an opportunity we can get in. So we just get in and we stop there. But what we want is to follow up. So if I push him. So get in to follow up until okay,
we get to the limit and we stop. So this is kind of training, and in this we use
the Southern punches. because if you push,
you can punch at any time right? So it becomes more dangerous, so we try to perform something at a short distance
without really injuring people. That is quite similar to Taiji.

33 thoughts on “Southern Shaolin Kung Fu | Master Ong Ming Thong | Season 1 Episode 05

  1. If Southern Shaolin, why do you need to mix in TaiJi and Xing Yi? To fill in missing portions of the art? Authentic Southern Shaolin is complete, with hard and soft techniques and Internals.

  2. there are many southern systems of kung fu.however i haven t heard before that kung fu martial art.i have studied hung gar and i am fully aware of all the drills but i dont know why there is still something missing.maybe its the way he teaches maybe is the barely known system.i find it very over simplified.apart from that ,its shaolin so its ok i suppose..

  3. OMG cool I have the chance to have 1 course under Master Ong. Cool to see a video with him. His Gong Fu is very good!

  4. i wish people would stop treating kung fu masters like there mystical or ancient there just normal people that know kung fu they would most likely lose a real fight if it were to happen so don't think the master is some mystical genius

  5. 推薦一個非常值得你去探訪的師傅給你,他是中國廣州的“馮楊風”師傅,是蔡李佛祖師真傳一脈的。

  6. love the videos. any chance u can use subtitles? it's hard to hear clearly from the background noise in your videos.

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  8. The reason Grandmaster Koay look so young and powerful is because he is form Penang, Malaysia and loves prawn noodle soup. With it, he can wop any low life punk gangster's arse.

  9. Very good video! Everything from 16:58 on is very practical and could be used in a wrestling and/or no gi submission grappling context. The part from 19:40 on looks similar to wrestling pummel drills.

  10. 20:20 I love how that works with the opponents hands flying about. That's why I love drills for muscle memory. Good stuff.

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