Martial Arts Politics | ART OF ONE DOJO

If you have spent any time in the martial
arts, then you may already be familiar about the opinions and debates that often come up. If you have not yet experienced this, then
I hope this video can be a warning as well as a preparation to experience Martial Arts
Politics. Martial Arts Politics are an unfortunate reality
and in many cases can spoil someone’s desire to train or cause a rift between schools. Those of you in the American Kenpo community
can definitely understand what I’m talking about. The goal for this video is to understand what
to expect if you have not encountered it yet and how to handle it if you do. First of all, before you engage or even talk
about the politics themselves, it’s important to identify whether it’s a serious debate
or if it’s a hater you’re dealing with. Some people out there just like making fun
of what others do. Other people are in their own martial art
and they think everything else is crap, so they’re going to hate on everything. Don’t engage with people like that. There’s no point. It’s a waste of time. You cannot win and what do you gain if you
do? You can usually tell if somebody has something
real to say, they usually state their opinions, they give reasons, they back up their claims. If it’s somebody who’s just trying to hate
and says “Oh, that’s crap” or “No, this is better. Why you doing that?” That probably isn’t worth your time to engage. We see it all the time in Kenpo and I thought
it was unique to our art. In recent years as I’ve explored and researched,
I’m finding it appears to be in every art. Any of you watching this could probably already
tell me a list of things that you’ve encountered or different arguments that pop up in your
art. It’s everywhere. A common hot topic of debate is the origin
of the art, especially if you’ve got an art that doesn’t necessarily have a clear beginning. It might’ve been something that started in
one form of style and it kind of branched off. A lot of times people will argue which is
the true origin or which is the better origin. In some arts, like Wing Chung, they branch
off, so you’ve got different schools of thought. That happens often. There’s a lot of conflict that sometimes students
will branch off or if a grandmaster passes away and doesn’t leave a proper lineage hierarchy,
it can fraction. When that happens, a lot of people will start
to debate what is the true version of the art, what is the origin, what is the best
version. That is something I see all the time. I cannot tell you how many times I’ve heard
“Well, I’ve trained in the real version.” Well, what’s the real version? There’s a version that so and so teaches and
then there’s this version they teach. Which one is the real one? That’s kind of a walk on eggshells argument
because how do you define who’s got the real version? It really depends on the origin. Playing off the origin, I want to talk about
lineage. Lineage is often a major source of conflict
because everyone feels they’ve got the better instructor or they’re learning on the right
path or their instructor is part of the true line, whatever. I see this a lot, especially in systems and
Kenpo is one of them, when you have a grandmaster that passes away and students take it upon
themselves to continue the art, but they go off in multiple branches. Now, I’m going to take Kenpo for example. In American Kenpo, Ed Parker combined a bunch
of other martial arts together and he made his own system with his own set of principles. From there, one thing he always preached was
the evolution of the art, the ever changing of the art. He even said that if people are practicing
my Kenpo the same way as I’m doing it now in 30 years, something is wrong. Arts need to adapt to the times, new styles
of fighting, new trends occur. What happened was with Mr. Parker is he trained
his first generation of students. He trained him ABC, this version. The problem though is comes into his next
generation of students because he changed, he altered, he updated. His next generation of black belts got a slightly
different curriculum and the next generation, slightly different. You repeat that for years and now you’ve got
multiple tiers of people with the same material, but you’ve got version A, version B, version
C, version D, and so on. A lot of them saying well mine is real or
mine is not. How do you determine that? “Well, I learned it first.” “Yeah, but I learned it newest and I got the
most updated information.” That’s common. It’s out there. Even more so is when you have students branch
off and create their own version of the system, like the Tracy brothers in Kenpo. They were Ed Parker’s students, they branched
off, and they did their own version. You see that a lot. Once you have multiple levels or multiple
tiers of version of the art and you’ve got spinoffs, then you really have a conflict
of well, whose is better. In reality, it really shouldn’t matter. Train your hardest. Find the one that makes sense to you. Become proficient in it. Make it work for you. Does it really matter what Bob over the is
doing or what Linda over there is doing? As long as it works for you, that’s what’s
important. You have to find something that’s applicable
in your life and follows a set of principles that you believe in and that you can proceed
in and become proficient with. A lot of times you just get people who feel
they’re better than everyone else. They might put in 10 hours a day and laugh
at anyone else, say “Oh, that looks like junk” or “I could do it better.” You’re going to come across that. Some people are really good and they know
it, but they act like it. They know it. That could be a sense of conflict as well. Basically, just like any other politics, it
comes down to my way is better. You’re going to encounter that, especially
in a world where it’s very competitive and it’s physically active and it’s about fighting,
competition, and form, and style, and technique. It’s going to be there, so prepare yourself
for these kinds of debates and then ask yourself is it a serious debate or is this person just
trying to troll and cause trouble. Take caution when you engage in this because
you need to understand where the other person is coming from and before you jump into an
argument, especially online because everybody can hide behind a computer and say what they
want with little consequence sometimes. Ask yourself should I engage in this topic? Do I have something I can contribute productively? Are they going to respond negatively? Be prepared because not every arguments are
worth doing. Got to choose your battles. In the event that someone challenges you or
makes a statement that you don’t agree with and you choose to engage, be prepared to state
your case. Now, when you do this, state your case but
don’t insult them. If you really have something useful to say,
you should be able to back it up. Back it up with facts, examples, reasons. If you make a claim or if you say one way
is better, tell them why. Don’t just say it’s better because I learned
from this master, tell me why it’s better. Don’t attack the person. Once you start going down that path, you kind
of devaluate your own position. Don’t start calling them names or saying their
stuff is crap. If you don’t like what they’re saying or what
they’re doing, ask them to justify it, ask them for resources. If you think someone makes a claim that you
don’t agree with, ask them to back it up. Don’t call them names. Don’t say they’re stupid and they’re an idiot
and their stuff is total garbage. Say okay, well, tell me why you feel that. Show me where did you get this information
from. Because once you start going down the mudslinging
path, you lose your own argument and then at that point, what’s the point? Also, there is a time and place for it. It’s not always appropriate to engage in a
debate. Politics, governmental politics, religious
politics, martial arts politics pop up various times and places. You have to decide is this appropriate time
to engage. Are you home on the computer on a message
board and somebody says something you don’t agree with, sure, by all means, go for it,
talk to them. Are you at a seminar with one of your grandmasters
or senior instructor and someone starts challenging them? Is that the time for you to jump in or is
that time for you to challenge the instructor if you don’t agree with it? No. That’s very disrespectful. Just think about who you’re working with,
where you are, and if it is the proper time to debate. Because a lot of times, debates end poorly,
especially if it gets personal. You could have a falling out with classmates,
instructors, other schools. You don’t want that. If you do want that, then maybe it’s time
for you to look for another school or reevaluate your own position. There’s a time and a place for it. Part of it is understanding when that is. Also, especially in the martial arts, your
reputation is at stake. If you start challenging everybody and you’re
not able to back it up, that’s going to get around. How do you want people to view you? Because martial arts is a community and almost
every school and every style has their own tight knit group, their own community. If you start behaving a certain way, that
will get around. Just keep in mind this is you. These are your views and just like any politics,
you’re stating your views, your practices, your principles. Do it respectfully because it reflects on
you. Now, if you get to this point where the debate
comes to a head and you can no longer answer, instead of getting mad at the other person,
ask yourself why can’t I answer? If they’re posing a claim and you can’t dispute
it or if you’re making a claim and they’re asking you to back it up and you quite can’t,
don’t get mad at them. That’s your opportunity to say to yourself
all right, maybe I don’t know this as well as I thought. Let me confirm this because I push this because
again it gets around. If you find yourself having difficulty backing
up a statement or if you don’t know an answer, it might be time to withdraw and revisit this
later and go do some homework. Now in the long run, people might be asking
well, what’s the point? Why debate? Does it benefit training? Really, it might not, especially if you’re
doing it just to argue. If your whole purpose is to fight and push
your own way and prove yourself better than everyone else, then no, of course it’s not
useful. It’s going to only take away from your training. But a lot of times and going back on my previous
point is a healthy debate could actually improve your training. Because if you do engage and someone makes
a very good point, it might be enough for you to question and rethink something and
sometimes that leads to learning something new or another frame of thought you had not
considered previously. Debating can be beneficial to your training
and your education as long as it’s respectful and it’s productive. You’re not attacking each other on a personal
level and you’re trying to come from a place of educated responses and knowing your research. Then yes, debate can be a very healthy part
of your overall martial arts training. Thanks for watching. Please share and subscribe and comment below,
but do not leave any opinions telling me I’m wrong, so you can take your discussion somewhere
else. Just kidding. I want all the dirt and gossip you can provide,
but please keep it civil. Thank you.

97 thoughts on “Martial Arts Politics | ART OF ONE DOJO

  1. I think that it should also be noted that there are people who earn a black belt in a style and just jump to the conclusion that they're qualified to instruct. They think that what they've been taught alongside of their personal experiences are enough. In some martial arts that's fine. However, in much of today's martial arts; there's strategy in the instruction as well. So, when someone opens up a school and have no understanding behind the curriculum structure… that could lead to students getting themselves (and others) hurt both inside and outside the school.

  2. I originally trained in Judo, which in competition, has changed somewhat over the years. Nowadays, leg picks (Kibisu Gaeshi, Kuchiki Daoshi, etc.), Sissor take downs (Kani Basami, etc.), grabs below the waist (Morote Gari, etc.), and standing arm bars (Waki Gatami, Standing Ude Gatami, etc.) have all been deemed Kinshi Waza (Forbidden Techniques) and thus, have been removed from competition Judo for safety. Personally, I think Judo is becoming Greco Roman Wrestling with a Gi. I love all these original techniques, and continue to teach them, and apply them…safely…at my school. I think in Judo competition nowadays, there needs to be better refereeing (that's a word?). If a contestant cannot apply a particular technique safely, then they should be disqualified…but to change the rules of the game? It disappointes me… c'mon Judo! WTF. 😑

  3. Very good presentation, Dan! Having been in the martial arts for so long, I've definitely seen plenty of politics at every level. I have always stayed out of it. Part of that is due to my nature (I stay out of governmental politics also), and partly because I have never felt any gain or investment for me by doing it. I have enjoyed learning my lineage since I never really understood it for a long time.
    I just train hard and enjoy the simple pleasures of doing it. If I can give some knowledge to others, I do willingly. If they offer me some, I take willingly.

  4. This happens a lot in Jeet Kune Do. Each one of Bruce Lee's students have their own version of what they learned from Bruce himself, causing a lot of "mine is the better version" kind of thing.

  5. Hello, did your channel branched out from a previous channel? I noticed some older videos from this page that is different from your newer videos.

  6. I'm a new sub and i tzke wing chung under grandmaster cheung andnimsee alot of hate toward him i'll take your advice next time i see it

  7. i have been in martial arts a long time, and yes i have to admit i've argued with people (to my shame), when i should of not bothered. But maturity brings wisdom (some times), now days i just get on the mat and train, if people like what you do, thats great, if not, no problem, there are many ways to the top of the mountain, each must find his own path, as long as you keep going up thats all that matters.
    Most negative comments come from people who grade 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th …….. but are really only still a 1st dan. I see this a lot, their technique is the same and done the same way when they took shodan, they just learned a new kata and a couple extra moves, then they grade 2nd dan. Its like they go up the mountain so far, and just go round and round on the same level. I find these are the ones who will be negative about any thing, and their way is the only way.

  8. I found your chanel by accident but I am glad I did… super awesome info… I have trained shotokan for 14 years in El Salvador… keep up the good job

  9. Its good to see the community is finally putting things in a structured perspective. Keep doing what you doing, big fan.

  10. It's what's common in martial arts that's important. Never mind the differences. All traditional karate and kung fu have common elements. Search for truth and with hard work U will find it.

  11. I just wanted to contribute to the conversation. I know a lot of people think that there is one art to rule them all, when it is really about the individual, and how they have honed their craft, I have beaten black belts, I have wrestled to win fights against lower belts, I have fought many belt levels of many arts, and it always comes down to one thing, me kicking their butt…. no, I am totally kidding, it comes down to the ability the individual has. I personally am not a fan of taekwondo for a fighting style, but I have seen some people who are really good at it, and others that are just ridiculously fit because of it.

  12. These are internal politics, good video, but I was expecting an external politics video and how they can have influence in martial arts. I'm talking about lobby, reputation, citizens and politicians attitude towards it, legislation and that kind of stuff. Would be a great video.
    Prohibitions, permissions, antidoping, competition and sports organization laws, incentives, also media coverage and public opinion. Interesting cases are the MMA development, karate in the Olympics, and for something smaller, you can look at the muay thai/thai boxing de-regulation in Rio de Janeiro, where masters degrees (sorry if I don't know how to refere to them in English) are being sold, not earned, and pretty much anyone can make an organization, which led to terrible "adaptations" and distortions of the thailandese martial art.

  13. Your videos are great man. Thank you. You're helping to preserve Traditional Martial Arts & traditional martial arts values.

  14. Which system is the best? I say it really depends on the practitioner. I train Krav Maga because I believe the techniques are most conducive to street defense and survival. I am not looking to compete in MMA or anything like that.

  15. The politics in BJJ is crazy bad. Carlos vs Helio lineage debates, sport vs defence debates, belt legitimacy debates…Martial arts are tough enough as it is, without making them harder by becoming involved in all the politics. Forget the politics and train!

  16. As someone who has trained in Kenpo for the last thirty years I can say the internal politics are real and they are a big mess, that being said any system of martial arts must be a living system. With every new student brings something to the table.

  17. I train shotokan karate_do and politics have ruined the art in my opinion too many federations and not enough unity we need one unified curriculum with the freedom to evolve the art I have had to leave a dojo because of politics it is a shame when people preach to you but cannot take there own advice hopefully things will change

  18. how do i ask a master for a sparing match to see what there martial arts is about and if its right for me without being disrespectful

  19. Hello, just to inform you that I think you made a mistake here, in one part of the video, you showed a photo of Yip Man with a caption of "founder of Wing Chun". He is NOT the founder of Wing Chun. According to legend, a nun named Ng Mui from ancient time founded the art. Yip Man is just one of the most famous Sifu of modern time Wing Chun.

  20. I'm practicing Hapkido with three main instructors plus a master grandmaster who come down to visit on occasion. All of whom either have or still train in other forms of martial art.
    I'll take their word in saying there is no perfect art. For me i love Hapkido

  21. Luckily, the only martial arts that does not have any kind of politics in it is HEMA. Since it is relatively new, they are moving away from the traditional way of training that other martial arts schools have. Also they get their training from masters who have passed away centuries ago that was written down by said masters.

  22. That was well thought out and executed! I lost my love for martial arts because of politics a while back ago. I have since found it again and realized that people are people and have agendas to protect their business (schools) and the image they are trying to put forth to their students, potential clients, and their standing within the martial arts community. Sometimes that image does not go well with practical applications of the arts.

  23. '' The easiest way to defeat an opponent is in their mind . '' I think this comes from The Art of War by Sun Tzu . People choose to place themselves in the centre and have others hero worship them .When one is no longer willing to accept their message they simply move on .

  24. Another excellent video. This was a really good topic. And you addressed it well. In the future I would like to hear you address the topic of people who claim to have rank that they really don’t. I would be curious to hear your opinions on that. I’m sure you’ve run into guys like that in your journey.

  25. It is correct that ip man was not the founder, but don't let that take away from the very important concept he is trying to deliver. I'm tempted to think that this "mistake" was intentional to see if we would take his advice.

  26. Would be awesome to debate on the topic of firearms vs martial arts and why most martial artist remain so ignorant on utilizing violence to win situations. Violence is a tool. It be great to debate with you Art of One Dojo

  27. The same thing with grandmaster. Parker dying in 1990. Not naming a successor. Happened in Kung Fu San Soo when grandmaster. Jimmy H Woo. Passed away. Now all the old Masters. Are claiming they should be grandmaster. This should only go to his grandson. As a grandmaster Woo wanted. So I understand what you're saying. Much respect

  28. The way has been the same for ages. The beauty of the way is that its simple and easy to tell whose view is the best. No one devotes their life to training to fight to not handle their disagreements as a warrior. In accordance with the way, one calmy and politely challenges one to a "comparison of skills" and if the other agrees, then would ensue a completely productive and educational event for both parties. Idk why this guy didnt say this

  29. All martial arts are good and depends on the students and the it's taught and how it's taken in by the students.train well

  30. My sifu says anybody can start a fight, but one must consider what is to gained and what is to be lost. Similarly, anybody can start an argument about what art is better, what will one gain if one wins the argument. I would question, how do you know you won the argument…

  31. Politics, lol! I have watched people and dealt with people talking about how their hung gar Kung fu is better because they learned from another teacher. But when I joined in the class. All the basics were exactly the same. The drills were exactly the same. The only difference was the way the instruction and intent was given!! But I have seen many karate schools that were completely different on their teaching of everything. I have also been in the middle of discussions with Kung fu schools that were teaching a version of what they thought was a true style. It’s very upsetting when you let yourself get into that kind of discussion!! There will be no winner only a bad taste of the art!! So beware of letting yourself get into that situation. Just enjoy the art and stay focused on what you want to get from it!!!

  32. To sum this up. Like secular politics in Washington, Christian denominations, so to is the world of Martial arts, debate, debate, debate with lack of unity (at least until Jeet Kwon Do ha ha)

    Honestly it all seems based in Hinduism, much like Yoga and Tai Chi. I am very careful in what I choose to practice so as not to channel the pantheon of Gods and anamist spiritual entities within Hinduism that somehow has strong connections to martial arts of many varieties.

    I recall when in college I encountered a tae kwon do master who based his style off of Tang Su Do because of a debate on its origin as to the true formula of Korean martial arts. I had to relearn and educate myself but it was a lot of fun during those times.

  33. Yes it is serious years ago I was asked to go to a tournament it was all Taekwondo a friend of mine was competing there was one competitor there who was hapkido he was kicking everybody's butt literally in forms and fighting could not score a point to save his life after it was over I went to talk to him he said yes I know about the politics but I just wanted to show him a few things

  34. Unfortunately it's because of ego and politics that I left Kyokushin and now teach a blend of my shorin-ryu training and kyokushin. I had two higher ranking black belts, from 2 styles of kyokushin, literally try to tell me how to run my dojo. One who has never been to my dojo. Other black belts were jealous of what I have done. We use to train together and they would call me brother to my face, but disrespect me behind my back. And I was supposed to pay on everything. Not to mention, teach it this way, no teach it this way.
    I'm a martial artist. If I can't learn from others and other styles, then I have failed as a karateka and sensei. My saying is I teach a way. Not the only way.
    Since leaving both organizations, my dojo has flourished and parents told me how much they did not like the kancho I trained under. He would try to get my students to come to his school.
    Good job on this one.

  35. The sad thing of it is, no matter the art. When it really comes down to it. Politics is all about ones ego either their's or yours. And if we all learned to open our ears and shut our mouth. A lot of the problems might just go away. But really how many of us are willing to do that?

  36. Martial arts politics suck when your dad is an instructor and do not want to train his style but still train a different martial art

  37. Don’t debate, just be well read enough and confident in your knowledge, let someone else’s drinking poison be their problem, not yours. Train, learn, enjoy. Osu!

  38. Thank you for posting this video. Much respect and appreciation from me to you.
    I have been involved in the martial arts for the better part of my existence… I started studying when I was 12.
    Unfortunately the politics of martial arts extends to every single martial art out there.. From boxing to Aikido to zui quan.
    ( see what I did there ]
    I have been privy to the politics and debates and outright infighting of JKD, FMA, American kenpo, and MMA communities, and I must say that when it comes to the concept of who is right and who is wrong it boils down to everybody is right and everybody is wrong.
    A wise person once said… A person convinced against their will is of the same opinion still…

    When it comes to martial arts Politics… The best advice I could ever give anybody is to simply not engage.
    People need conflict, people need to feel Justified and to feel correct.
    When a conversation begins about martial arts and one person asks the advice or opinions of another.. Remember that you're getting advice and opinions.

    ultimately… The fact that one would practice the martial arts and promote their art is a testament to their dedication to their art… provided it is done with Integrity, responsibility… And honor

  39. I see this in MMA all the time, but to the extent of MMA/UFC vs everyone. The disgusting behavior I've witnessed from that crowd has gone to the extent of disrespect towards anybody who isn't in their scene and even disrespect of creators of different martial arts styles before them. I tend to distance myself from that crowd because it's just a massive gathering of bro culture anyways. I love tend to stick to interacting with more traditional martial artists because they usually uphold their traditions of respect for others.

  40. I introduced Kenpo in Kenya 20 years ago. Today there are 3 & 4 generations of Blackbelts in several new styles. Politics almost destroyed many great connections between Blackbelts.

  41. I like to stick with facts. You can argue opinions but you can't argue facts without looking foolish.

    Reliable sources (note the plural) are important. Although sometimes researching the history of arts can be problematic because insufficient records exist, either through a lack of good record keeping or because records were destroyed during invasions, social upheavals etc.

    It's really liking dealing with anything else historical; we need to draw conclusions or make hypotheses based on available evidence. Studying the history of martial arts can often be like looking at incomplete fossil records.

  42. This happened in Jeet Kun do. Danny Inosanto told Bruce Lee's students that he and Bruce were practicing Filipino Arnis. Many students left Danny because they only wanted Shaolin forms. (I am a student of Grnd Tuhon Leo Gaje jr, Tom Bisio and Tuhon Wm Mcgrath and there is no question of debate–the method, as it is works. No speculations, eg One of Leo Gaje's first students started doing ''performances'' and forgot and lost the art and it's combat applications. He was rejected in writing and no one should work with him

  43. In the system I study, we recently cut off almost all of our NZ, Aus and Japan schools due to the Sifu for that part of the world not following our Sigung's teachings. Fully understand

  44. Yes I come across this all the time when mma people say they are superior to traditional martial arts and that traditional martial arts won’t work in a real fight

  45. Only my martial art is the real martial art. All others are just McDojos. I created my own martial art from what I learned in the Navy SEALs, Green Berets, the CIA, the NSA, and from the 100,000 street fights I put myself into because I have a severe drinking problem and am an angry drunk. For $1,000 I can teach YOU the ancient fighting styles of the ninjas of South Detroit. All you gotta do is go to www dot allothermartialartssuck dot com and order my DVD.

  46. Martial arts most often than not involve alpha personalities- that have a sense of swag, leadership, influence- which have a built-in advantage and weakness: superior ity in skill,intolerance with perceived inferiority.

  47. There's no one TRUE way. You must find your truth 😉 what works for you might not be right for me. Kempo jitsu is constantly evolving and the best fighting art TO ME. Trolls will be trolls and everyone is entitled to their opinion. I thought aikido, aikijiujitsu and judo were garbage until I tested them. I thought ALL TKD was sport bullshit until GM Royce Thomas showed me his foot. There are no better styles only better men. Kempo aikijiujitsu is MY way and I'd have to be a shithead to crap on your truth or way. I have had physical fights because a schmuck said that ALL kenpo is flashy arm waving BS and or just ineffectual dancing. We are dancing. Come dance with us. Incidentally. Chuck Liddell, Bruce Lee, Steve Muhammad, GSP, Michael Jai White, Victor Moore Benny the Jet Urquidez and Dan Inosanto are all kempo jitsu men ! MJW and GSP are kyokushin Kai kempo jitsu men so STFU about the nonsense. YOU MAKE WHATEVER IT IS that you do EFFECTIVE ! Styles and systems are secondary if they're REAL. Professor Mitosi and Chow were the TRUTH and their fruit speaks to their art. 🐅 🐉🙏🏾🙏 💪🏾🐯

  48. It is so funny to watch haters say this won't work in mma and then someone comes in and is successful with it and they have to eat their words, Joe Rogan and many others. Strike/kick or grab/twist; it isn't rocket science or magic.

  49. The difference between belief, truth, and reality. Politics happens because a belief is challenged. If you are seeking the truth you will always assume that you are wrong and there is something to learn. The reality is belief can lead one to develop a deep understanding of a topic that may or may not be universally applicable. That doesn't mean it is completely wrong or invalid it just means it is not universally applicable. Like Pythagoras…..he worshiped the triangle. Gave us this awesome math bur was ultimately deemed a quack because he worshiped the triangle as a universal truth. It was his own student who pointed out his flaw.

  50. I think the joke that the last tournament that Steven segal won is a pizza eating contest applies to this guy.

  51. Unlike MAJ, I feel like when you speak on Martial arts, you don't have a hard lean or pandering audience. You are willing to speak on the weaknesses of your system without being derogatory. You make a point to understand what's being shown, what's being said, and how you feel on the matter in question.

    You're open minded and you attempt your best at being realistic but also impartial.

    This is easily one of my favorite channels. Thank you, dude.

  52. I teach Kodokan Judo. That's Judo with strikes, throws, and grappling. Would I just say Jigoro Kano is my lineage or what? I'm just teaching the way I learned plus what I've found works better. That's okay, right?

  53. the old time period there is a challenge match against other martial artist. This is either to challenge to the death…or beat the shit out of them.

  54. I just became a renegade just to avoid politics. I honestly don't care what people or other so call masters think. I'm happy training with other people who just like to train

  55. Since you stoped answering the other vídeo, i see this one as an oportunity to engage in debate, get the popcorn cuz it's going to be a long one
    I think i can agree with the fact that, some people just want to argue to feel porwerful by shaming others, but there is a community that is really concerned about the way Martial arts are handled and how people are getting bullshit training and methods sold to them and their kids. Let me remind to all that most Martial arts systems and lineages are actually governed by themselves, Even the "world organization" sometimes doesnt Even get checked by anybody, they implement their rules, their rankings, their currículum and who is who in the system.
    This is part of the problem with a Lot of Martial arts…they just make shit up, bujinkan (Made up Martial art by that hatsumi guy) no touch nockouts and chi BS, aikido, a Lot of karate Styles..Even now you have schools that jumped un the mma bandwagon because it's what's popular, you have karate schools teaching groundfighting or grappling because it's what people want to learn..most of them are not regulated, they don't have experts teaching what they Say they are teaching! For people in this business and Martial artist that train and teach reality based Martial arts its a big problem economically and morally!
    We don't want people to get cheated and hurt by usseless Martial arts skills…they are skills yes, but not fighting skills. The real problems with Martial arts that are not reality based, like this kempo youre talking about or a Lot of the systems that nowadays you can see, is that, they usually don't work…of course youre gonna find anecdotal evidence of it working..but you Will find more of it not working, MOST Martial artist and fighters understand that SOME Martial art training is better than none..and i AM one of them believe ir not, i support when you say…"practice what works for you" and enjoy it, i love that! What i Will judge and bring up is that, there ARE more effective Martial arts and training methods…you don't have to be a Genius to know this, but most fake Martial arts school Will Say…"it's not the art it's the person"…"no Martial art is better than other" sadly this is not true.
    There áre better and more effective ways of fighting, i'm pretty sure those wrist locks and dance moves Will work on somebody whos not expecting itor somebody that has no idea of what they're doing, but it's much better to overhand him i'm the face, these techniques they teach won't work against trained fighters! Or Even untrained bigger opponents or stronger opponents… It has been proven through video evidence for the past 30 year and through told anécdotes ( which we have to be squepctical about) that something like bjj has been used to beat other less effective Martial arts…is bjj the best? NO. But is it a more effective Martial art than Kenpo (theres tons of video evidence that prove it is) yes it is…
    At the end this debate on which is better was already answered by valetudo and mma competitions…this style of no holds bared and mixed fighting rooted out and sedimented the base of effective fighting hand to Hands combat…
    But that doesnt adress weapons and múltiple opponents, yes it doesnt adress weapons or múltiple opponents, a Lot of Martial arts don't (they're still affective and have beaten múltiple opponents and armed people) nonetheless most of weapons training tought outside military bases is BS and most schools lie about the reality of facing weapons like knives or guns (most instructors havent Even held a fin!)and múltiple opponents, which is usually a one sided beatdown for the reciever or a struck of luck where he/she can defend.

    I'm conclusión i don't care about polítics in your Made up Martial arts…i don't care if ou trained under yip man and vence youre the holder of the true wing Chung…at the end of the day the real debate is on…which one is more effective and i don't mean to spoil anybodies party but…this debate has pretty much been settled over the past 100 years where mixed Martial arts competitions have been rooting out what works and what doesnt andncontinues yo do so…new ways of implementing certain techniques are being discovered…but not by those purists, no…they're being discovered by fighters who actually have to use them againsts other trained fighters un the ring.

    Yet again this is only an that is shared amongst most legit Martial artists on the planet, youll hardly find a fighter or legit practitioner of combat Martial arts syaing something totally different from this because the evidence suggests this is what it is. Thank you

  56. I do Tai Chi and don't believe in chi. I get haters from both the energy quacks and the energy quack haters.

  57. I can’t stand when someone says that another art is just “crap”. Every martial art has its benefits and is amazing in its own way. I’ve got friends that train in MMA and they love to tell me that Shotokan (what I practice) is “worthless” and has no benefits to it. I’ve been training in Shotokan my entire life, and it’s ingrained into who I am. And before I had a traumatic accident in 2011, I also trained in boxing, kickboxing, and a little jujutsu (Japanese, not BJJ). I found value in all of it.

    However my usual reply to someone who says that the traditional arts aren’t practical, I like to bring up Lyoto Machida (former UFC fighter from Japan whose primary style was Shotokan).

    We all practice Budo. The “do” in Budo means “way” (Budo is Japanese for “Martial Way”), which implies it’s a lifelong pursuit and we’re never done learning and studying. I take that to mean to also learn from other styles as well, any techniques, kata, or anything else that can make me a better Budoka.

  58. Was a Shorin Ryu practitioner since 1994 and became a black belt during the year 2000. 2018 I left because of the politics.

    Masters fighting over which style is better. What ticked me off was when I started cross training in Muay Thai.

    They started talking trash that muay thai or non Okinawan arts are not humble. Seriously, that is so judgemental.

    I left Karate and now train in muay thai.

    I respect Karate but some of the people that run it are just too close minded.

  59. Bujinkan is debates. Who trained under which shihan, who trained in Japan, who went to Japan the most. Then the Genbukan and Jeninkan. Etc…

  60. Someone popping off about how their system is superior or another is crap clearly missed an extremely valuable lesson of MA in general.

  61. I think you would be a good English teacher. State you case, give reasons, examples. I want a 5 page essay on the origins of Tang Soo Do on Friday.

  62. Schisms in martial arts are extremely common, and they're often the result of an instructor wanting to branch off, open his/her own school, and avoid having to pay franchise/association fees from their parent organization. I've known many martial arts school owners, and it seems like a very tough business to be involved in, especially because student contracts are a "necessity" in the business. Unfortunately, there is a natural knee-jerk reaction among many consumers to avoid long contracts at all costs, especially when most kids tend to be "fickle" in their interests. Unlike school sports, dojo owner/operators cannot count on a "guaranteed season" in which they will have x number of students training under them. The person who runs a school is in the precarious position of having to "retain students", many of whom will "quit" the moment that their contract expires — especially if their "second contract" also requires another lengthy stretch of time.

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