BJJ BLACK BELT Demonstrates How Realistic DONNIE YEN’s Flash Point Grappling Skills Are


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and comment below. Alright let’s do this. [Chad] Collin Chou he has more Kung-Fu style there [Chad] But Donnie Yen takes more like a
Western striking style [Chad] Alright, this is cool! [Chad] just checking kicks [Chad] boom! [Logan] Oh Damn [Chad] And that’s actually a legit move And Donnie Yen, caught it. from here he went into a
similar action whereas he went under dropped to his knees threw his partner down that may look flashy but it’s a legit move and you do see it
in combat and combat sports particularly in the combat sport of Sanda (Sanshou) I’ve seen variations like this or where I hold on to the jacket and I
get my elbow underneath but in terms of the footwork the lower body as I enter
especially if he’s a bit square and I’d done something to wind him out I will drop right down to my knees and throw him over A better answer to that situation is
that if he identified the kick there block like so, with this grip, would be more effective if this was caught he can now bring his hips back and it’s a wide opening for me to, step in create a frame, and chop out the foot and making a collapse happen. [Chad] Alright, he’s in side control [Logan] Oh, Brutal [Chad] Throwing the knees [Chad] now that’s an issue the space between the shoulder and his groin and that will become an issue where the elbow can go to the floor So Donnie Yen established a side control on Collin Chou From here he uses this to throw knees to his opponent. This arm, maybe was over at some point actually to deliver the knees. And this is valid. This works. I can put pressure with my chest and that’s a clear shot. Here he’s swung sat down and caught the arm my right shin stays into the armpit the left foot hooks the head and goes down here,
on my back with the arm, on my center-line This is how Donnie Yen went into his armbar I have some criticism here. First, my opponent is too flat. There’s a good chance that he can pull the elbow down and actually you see that in his form so when he goes into the armbar, there’s a
shot where you maybe can see the amount of space, that’s here. Even if Donnie Yen got this far with the way he entered, the elbow can drop to the floor the armbar is gone a better answer or a better entry would be a scenario where I somehow got my opponent on its side like this maybe I have a hold of Kimura Where I’m grabbing his wrist I’m coming under, grab my wrist here and the elbow’s higher so now from here I can bring this leg over and connect tighter. and now there’s less space I mentioned this before in my John Wick breakdown That a general rule for breaking joints is you want to control the join above it so if I wanna break the elbow,
I want to try and control the shoulder joint. so how tight I get is very important
for my mechanics of breaking and control. My second criticism of technique is the arm placement. on the center-line, not the best place. One, you might hurt your groin. Two, the breaking power is not as strong. What is recommended, in this case. I’m attacking Logan’s right arm. Therefore I’ll move the right arm to my right hip. and I bring his right hand to
my right shoulder my elbows, right elbow will be down.
Left elbow up. I’m controlling the thumb area here. Especially if he makes a fight somehow. It doesn’t matter. I’m controlling the thumb area there and reinforcing with my second hand. Thumb,
second hand. and here is a better breaking mechanic. [Chad] alright this is a cool jiu-jitsu scene so we start entering now with the jacket [Chad] so he’s blocking [Chad] and now, okay. Close-guard. That’s a legit response in a strike situation. [Chad] but now he’s using his feet properly. [Chad] Yup [Chad] and he’ll start into a collar sleeve
situation now [Chad] Boom! Sleeve, collar. [Logan] Nice!
[Chad] Now a Triangle. [Logan] Sweet! That’s an old-school way of doing a triangle.
It has changed. and again, I’ll explain that later. He’s trying for the choke and this is actually a real issue. I remember Rampage Jackson in Pride MMA doing that. Damn. Punches were flying.
Legs were up. Use them to block here.
Push the hips to create distance. and so during the battle, he caught a sleeve grip. This hand then. As he pulled, establish a collar grip. Thus collar and sleeve. Okay, what do my feet do? One shoot should be on the bicep. I want to try and deny that and
any grips here (to my body) as possible. so this stays here. My left foot is in one our two locations. either on the hip or hooking the leg so and this is referred to as a De La Riva Hook. Ideally, out of the two, to have this but as guys get well-trained they don’t let you have this so you have to bounce back between the two based on where the fight goes. This is what I saw Donnie Yen establish. From here he went to his Triangle choke. One looks like this here. Pull down across and lock. From here he went into a very classic version of the triangle choke where he was squared on and he locked up like so. You had the head centered to the center-line. and he started pulling. Now there are some problems here 1) you can see a partner’s shoulder. that’s gonna affect your squeezing power. you actually need to angle to
cover that shoulder up for maximum choking power. The film showed an issue
with this old-school version of the choke. 2) The ability for my opponent to slam me. so the triangle choke as evolved. This right arm should be grabbing
either the armpit or the leg. It is extremely difficult for him to just stand up, pick me up and slam me down to the floor. [Chad] And this is cool! [Chad] I had never seen this in a movie. [Logan] Beautiful!
[Chad] Entry to leg locks. and he went for an inside heel hook Donnie Yen established a cross ashi With an inside triangle referred to an inside sankaku the issue in the scene was when Donnie Yen applied this to Collin Chou made an error in his form. Where when he tried to break as going flat he pulled the heel over. realistically, if done correctly, you want to strain the leg by leaning back and then push the toes downward You don’t want to pull it over, because you’re helping your opponent by spinning out now Collin Chou, he got out by taking this leg and kicking the knee off and then started just sliding out. What he should’ve done was, is if this was done incorrectly, as I explained he should’ve spun with it, belly down towards the floor and that would have helped him kick the leg off and slide his knee out A good general rule for breaking leg locks. Is for me, the attacker, I need control of the knee. the defender can clear his knee in a very safe way most likely, in a lot of cases, he kills the leg lock. and it provides a very clean, efficient, safe escape. [Chad] Alright, we get into the final part of the fight. [Chad] Boom! Okay? I don’t.. I don’t… [Chad] Alright, so now hooks come in.
[Logan] Now he has his hooks. [Chad] Yeah [Logan] Crossing his feet. Old school.
[Chad] Yeah [Chad] And look, if the guy doesn’t know,
cross-feet can be valid. [Chad] and sometimes actually against bigger people, if the guy is super huge [Chad] Sometimes you have to cross your feet temporary. To hold someone down that size. [Logan] Gotcha!
[Chad] This is not the case here. So in the fight scene, Donnie Yen got stacked. And this is where, the final part of the fight was. And he choked him out and won. There are some problems here in terms of efficiency. and especially if my partner is well-trained,
what can happen? Okay! First, the choke itself. This is no more. The reason why he can go over, grab, pull very easy. What we want rather is, one hand, the choking hand, On my bicep. The control or support hand on my shoulder. The availability of him
grabbing my hand off, is very very hard. what he needs is a finger grip from anywhere from my wrists,
down to my fingers. this area, with a grip, will ruin my choke. so my form should be like so. I could be ear to ear covering my
my arm or chin to wrist
depending how you want to finish. We don’t want this. If he’s trained, he will know how to
cross feet over my ankle and break it. You can do this under certain conditions A) The guy doesn’t know what he’s doing
B) maybe he’s super big and you just need a hold him temporarily for the choke. Right? so you have some scenarios where this is legit. Okay! How do we wanna use your legs here? Well Your three variations for proper control Number 1 1) Full Body Triangle If he’s too big because I can’t do this, Number 2 2) A half body triangle where I’m hugging his stomach and the other foot is staying on his hip. If there is a scenario where this
top knee comes to the chest here And I can’t cross my feet like I just demonstrated, 3) I cross my feet behind the butt. From here I can stay here and still do my choke or I can stretch him open, get my foot in, and reinforce my legs in a better way which allows me to apply my rear-naked strangle. my last thing I’ll criticize Is especially the position, as you just saw I was on the side I do not want an opponent to stacking me It is very difficult to choke someone if that happens and that’s what the scene showed, that’s not what I recommend in a fight. Take the fight to one of the sides, to give you proper chocking mechanics. It had great grappling, I like the Judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, the wrestling, and also the striking. My criticism would be how some
of the things were applied. The armbar, the triangle choke. I’m sure they chose that form in purpose to demonstrate Collin Chou, lifting up Donnie Yen and slamming him as I explained already. and I also think that’s good too, to show the real consequences of bad technique. My grade for Flash Point and this fight scene is a B+ Thank you guys for watching! If you’re interested in training yourself, look in the link below for Evolution Muay Thai NYC That’s where you’ll find me. If you also want to see us
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5 thoughts on “BJJ BLACK BELT Demonstrates How Realistic DONNIE YEN’s Flash Point Grappling Skills Are

  1. Great stuff as always. Cool to see how the techniques have evolved since my jujitsu days. The "new" triangle choke certainly seems a lot more effective and requires less effort from the attacker.

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